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	<title>Comments on: Water Fuel - HHO Gas</title>
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	<description>High T3ch</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-219140</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect...
We humans are so skeptical when we see a free sign.

The production of Brown's gas (HHO)is done by my alternator in my 2000 Honda civic by drawing approx.
15 Amps of current from it (the potential for this is
already built into a cruising vehicle)
Check "Dutchman Enterprises"

I'm currently enjoying 120 MILES/U.S. GAL. of Gasoline!!

Write me back if you want a ride!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect&#8230;<br />
We humans are so skeptical when we see a free sign.</p>
<p>The production of Brown&#8217;s gas (HHO)is done by my alternator in my 2000 Honda civic by drawing approx.<br />
15 Amps of current from it (the potential for this is<br />
already built into a cruising vehicle)<br />
Check &#8220;Dutchman Enterprises&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently enjoying 120 MILES/U.S. GAL. of Gasoline!!</p>
<p>Write me back if you want a ride!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ferno34</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-218462</link>
		<dc:creator>ferno34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VIVA LA HHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VIVA LA HHO</p>
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		<title>By: What Is HHO Gas? &#8211; ProHho</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-216868</link>
		<dc:creator>What Is HHO Gas? &#8211; ProHho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got this information from HighT3ch its really an awsome site and it talks also about HHO [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got this information from HighT3ch its really an awsome site and it talks also about HHO [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hho for welding</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-215839</link>
		<dc:creator>hho for welding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emilya</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-215473</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we run our car with water and gas?
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we run our car with water and gas?<br />
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?</p>
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		<title>By: MrMims</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-215080</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. all i see are nay-sayers looking at facts provided by our capitalistic governments. Do you really think the development of HHO gas as a feesable fuel source will be anywhere in the realm of beneficial for "The interest of the Nation", hell, any nation at the matter. What greedy government can put a TAX ON WATER?!?!? We are all being lead to the slaughter by our "leaders" profiting from outdated technologies. Look at what they did to Tesla and Stan Meyers. Wonder why you never heard of them? No one is funding HHO gas and its on the shoulders of honorable home-brewers to perfect this technology.(i believe Stan Meyers already did, thats why he was freaking offered $1 billion to keep his mouth shut. He refused, now hes dead, and no one heard about him except the lucky few whose seen him in local news). 
anyway, to you nay-sayers, if you aren't part of the solution you're part of the problem. check your sources and you'll find they all backed by one source, your freaking government. WAKE UP PEOPLE! a few of you guys on here spreading good knowledge(HHO-Runner "Blindman" and others) are speaking the truth and you people need to listen. these technologies have already been somewhat perfected... we have backpedaled and now learning how to harness the energy in naturally occuring batteries aka WATER again. think im lieing, go search on youtube, look for Stan Meyers, and dozens of home-brewers posting their finding. Upon viewing learn how to distinguish the real from the fakes before passing judgment, information is finally uncensored now-a-days.

cough.. excuse me, guess whats already happening. our governments already trying to turn a profit on water. lol, well they already did that with bottled water coming straight from the tap of you water-hose. ummmmm, look at the companies being produced, trying to find a way to store HHO gas so that they can create it themselves while you PAY FOR WATER... AGAIN. when is this nonsense gonna stop? wake me up when our corrupt governments get off their profiteering high horse and make a change for our world.


peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. all i see are nay-sayers looking at facts provided by our capitalistic governments. Do you really think the development of HHO gas as a feesable fuel source will be anywhere in the realm of beneficial for &#8220;The interest of the Nation&#8221;, hell, any nation at the matter. What greedy government can put a TAX ON WATER?!?!? We are all being lead to the slaughter by our &#8220;leaders&#8221; profiting from outdated technologies. Look at what they did to Tesla and Stan Meyers. Wonder why you never heard of them? No one is funding HHO gas and its on the shoulders of honorable home-brewers to perfect this technology.(i believe Stan Meyers already did, thats why he was freaking offered $1 billion to keep his mouth shut. He refused, now hes dead, and no one heard about him except the lucky few whose seen him in local news).<br />
anyway, to you nay-sayers, if you aren&#8217;t part of the solution you&#8217;re part of the problem. check your sources and you&#8217;ll find they all backed by one source, your freaking government. WAKE UP PEOPLE! a few of you guys on here spreading good knowledge(HHO-Runner &#8220;Blindman&#8221; and others) are speaking the truth and you people need to listen. these technologies have already been somewhat perfected&#8230; we have backpedaled and now learning how to harness the energy in naturally occuring batteries aka WATER again. think im lieing, go search on youtube, look for Stan Meyers, and dozens of home-brewers posting their finding. Upon viewing learn how to distinguish the real from the fakes before passing judgment, information is finally uncensored now-a-days.</p>
<p>cough.. excuse me, guess whats already happening. our governments already trying to turn a profit on water. lol, well they already did that with bottled water coming straight from the tap of you water-hose. ummmmm, look at the companies being produced, trying to find a way to store HHO gas so that they can create it themselves while you PAY FOR WATER&#8230; AGAIN. when is this nonsense gonna stop? wake me up when our corrupt governments get off their profiteering high horse and make a change for our world.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-213426</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to see one of these hho generators produce enough gas to keep a cars engine running. Besides, the internal cumbustion engine is very inefficient, just think of all that heat energy being wasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see one of these hho generators produce enough gas to keep a cars engine running. Besides, the internal cumbustion engine is very inefficient, just think of all that heat energy being wasted.</p>
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		<title>By: Hho Change &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Is HHO Gas?</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-213423</link>
		<dc:creator>Hho Change &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Is HHO Gas?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got this information from HighT3ch its really an awsome site and it talks also about HHO [...]</description>
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		<title>By: High T3ch &#187; World&#8217;s Smallest HHO Generator</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-212826</link>
		<dc:creator>High T3ch &#187; World&#8217;s Smallest HHO Generator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has useful information on it and its hhochange.com and my previous post bout HHO Gas called &#8220;Water Fuel - HHO Gas&#8220;.        var dc_UnitID = 14; var dc_PublisherID = 3216; var dc_AdLinkColor = 'blue'; var [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-212091</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would not be smarter if we convince the big oil companies to buy the patents and pay us the big bucks and in return we forget about this project? In a way that oil companies will keep manipulating prices so we both get richer....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would not be smarter if we convince the big oil companies to buy the patents and pay us the big bucks and in return we forget about this project? In a way that oil companies will keep manipulating prices so we both get richer&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: cyberscan</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-210915</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberscan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm both skeptical and optimistic.  Yes, I believe that it will take more energy to dissassociate water into HHO  than burning HHO will produce.  However when the HHO is burned in the combustion chamber ALONG with gasoline, it may result in a much better and more efficient burn increasing gas mileage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m both skeptical and optimistic.  Yes, I believe that it will take more energy to dissassociate water into HHO  than burning HHO will produce.  However when the HHO is burned in the combustion chamber ALONG with gasoline, it may result in a much better and more efficient burn increasing gas mileage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed B.</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-209014</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all of the energy put into the comments here, has anyone actually built or purchased a system for their car?  If so, what were the results.  There lies the real truth!  If anyone out there thinks that we as humans are all knowing then you have not kept up with the world.  Just look at mobile phone technology and the internet.  We have only scratched the surface of understanding all that is around us.  And, each time we discover something new, it adds another possibility, since coupled with some other new discovery it could bring another.  Could it be that the developers of physics missed something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all of the energy put into the comments here, has anyone actually built or purchased a system for their car?  If so, what were the results.  There lies the real truth!  If anyone out there thinks that we as humans are all knowing then you have not kept up with the world.  Just look at mobile phone technology and the internet.  We have only scratched the surface of understanding all that is around us.  And, each time we discover something new, it adds another possibility, since coupled with some other new discovery it could bring another.  Could it be that the developers of physics missed something?</p>
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		<title>By: mflores</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-208590</link>
		<dc:creator>mflores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm building one for the truck and should be testing this weekend. A comment earlier struck me as completely revolutionary. Whole-house HHO powered with solar and diesel back-up. We could live OFF the grid! The Fascists will still have their taxes and tolls, but the people can access free energy. 

Grow your own, People!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m building one for the truck and should be testing this weekend. A comment earlier struck me as completely revolutionary. Whole-house HHO powered with solar and diesel back-up. We could live OFF the grid! The Fascists will still have their taxes and tolls, but the people can access free energy. </p>
<p>Grow your own, People!</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-207992</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info: 
The idea behind hho water vs. gas is a hybrid engine (car).. not a complete replacment of gas combusion. Oxygen from the hho bind to the gas and burns it more efficiently expressing C02 and not C0. Hydrogen burns much hotter, burning all the fuel rather than 60 percent as a regular car runs today. A simple hho gen can improve fuel economy. Now, you dont get energy from nothing. It takes electricity to get the hho seperation. BUT... the alternator in an auto is underutilized. it only take 5 or up to 8 or so amps at 12v to get enough hho to build a hybrid. That amound of power will not create the inverse amount of resistance on the engine because the mechanical part of the alternator is already spinning all the time. Drawing 5 or so amps will not have a negative energy impact. Drawing 30 or 40 amps will. Like when you jump your a car.. the other feeder car's engine is impacted because 40 or so amps is being pulled causing added resistance. We build one. To test. we bolted several of them on to a motorcycle (no generator so we regulated the electricity with a lab supply). It ran the bike without gas. We are bolting on to a car soon. Will hope to get significant gas improvement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info:<br />
The idea behind hho water vs. gas is a hybrid engine (car).. not a complete replacment of gas combusion. Oxygen from the hho bind to the gas and burns it more efficiently expressing C02 and not C0. Hydrogen burns much hotter, burning all the fuel rather than 60 percent as a regular car runs today. A simple hho gen can improve fuel economy. Now, you dont get energy from nothing. It takes electricity to get the hho seperation. BUT&#8230; the alternator in an auto is underutilized. it only take 5 or up to 8 or so amps at 12v to get enough hho to build a hybrid. That amound of power will not create the inverse amount of resistance on the engine because the mechanical part of the alternator is already spinning all the time. Drawing 5 or so amps will not have a negative energy impact. Drawing 30 or 40 amps will. Like when you jump your a car.. the other feeder car&#8217;s engine is impacted because 40 or so amps is being pulled causing added resistance. We build one. To test. we bolted several of them on to a motorcycle (no generator so we regulated the electricity with a lab supply). It ran the bike without gas. We are bolting on to a car soon. Will hope to get significant gas improvement</p>
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		<title>By: Sparks</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-207770</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay to the guys worried about powering the unit.  Why not rig it to start from the battery then )after you mod of course)have it power of of some extra fans(aka mini windmills) that can be set up in the grill of the car.  The faster you go the more wind. The longer you drive the more energy.  Also could you not us this set up to assist in the recharge of the battery and take the strain of the alternator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay to the guys worried about powering the unit.  Why not rig it to start from the battery then )after you mod of course)have it power of of some extra fans(aka mini windmills) that can be set up in the grill of the car.  The faster you go the more wind. The longer you drive the more energy.  Also could you not us this set up to assist in the recharge of the battery and take the strain of the alternator?</p>
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		<title>By: water for gas</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-207591</link>
		<dc:creator>water for gas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the 1 argument I always hear against it is that more energy is used to convert the water to gas. ...http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/Water 4 Gas Run Your Car With Water Car ProDrive Around Using water As Fuel - Laugh At Rising gas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the 1 argument I always hear against it is that more energy is used to convert the water to gas. &#8230;http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/Water 4 Gas Run Your Car With Water Car ProDrive Around Using water As Fuel - Laugh At Rising gas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bobro</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-207310</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh one last thing... i heard its not just water out the tap... its very VERY pure water...

something about when you put electricity in water it conducts not cause of water but because of the minerals and other chemicals in it, what you need to do is purify it (no i dont think britta filters will do it) and then the elctricity causes the water maolicules to form up until they split, creating HHO then you can burn this like a crasy man after bean supper!!

:^D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh one last thing&#8230; i heard its not just water out the tap&#8230; its very VERY pure water&#8230;</p>
<p>something about when you put electricity in water it conducts not cause of water but because of the minerals and other chemicals in it, what you need to do is purify it (no i dont think britta filters will do it) and then the elctricity causes the water maolicules to form up until they split, creating HHO then you can burn this like a crasy man after bean supper!!</p>
<p>:^D</p>
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		<title>By: Bobro</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-207309</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there... bit late to this discussion but hey better than never... i didnt read all of it so sorry if im repeating anything but...

i read somewere that scientists along time ago found this out and calculated an output of 150% + (that would be pleasent)

and all though people keep saying its safe i also heard the same or simalar method is pretty much how we got the hydrogen bomb!.. (bad if you have a car accident but think of the power output!!)

i beleive this technology to be the way forward and that it can be worked on and improved greatly, the reason we arnt using it is cause goverments will struggle taxing water.. 

any comments about my post are gladly welcomed..

keep smileing everyone :^D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there&#8230; bit late to this discussion but hey better than never&#8230; i didnt read all of it so sorry if im repeating anything but&#8230;</p>
<p>i read somewere that scientists along time ago found this out and calculated an output of 150% + (that would be pleasent)</p>
<p>and all though people keep saying its safe i also heard the same or simalar method is pretty much how we got the hydrogen bomb!.. (bad if you have a car accident but think of the power output!!)</p>
<p>i beleive this technology to be the way forward and that it can be worked on and improved greatly, the reason we arnt using it is cause goverments will struggle taxing water.. </p>
<p>any comments about my post are gladly welcomed..</p>
<p>keep smileing everyone :^D</p>
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		<title>By: water fuel sucks</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-206364</link>
		<dc:creator>water fuel sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GasHigh T3ch is a blog on fun technology. Videos, gadgets, documentaries and all the fun tech stuff.http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/Editorial: If you think water restrictions around here are bad now ... - TCPalmProposals are under [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matty</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205793</link>
		<dc:creator>Matty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey "The Cat" the algae thing is bunk, they are genetically engineering the algae. Te HHO thing is for real.  Just try and take 40 amps and subliminate tungsten, it ain't happenin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;The Cat&#8221; the algae thing is bunk, they are genetically engineering the algae. Te HHO thing is for real.  Just try and take 40 amps and subliminate tungsten, it ain&#8217;t happenin.</p>
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		<title>By: toogi</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205778</link>
		<dc:creator>toogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments Entropy Solution.
As I mentioned before, hydrogen is the answer and I learn with santana what he call the santana effect. I went to visit him and for my surprise, he also show me how his entire house which is powered with hydrogen only and his wife Ford super duty truck drive with over 85%hydrogen and 15% diesel. Its also truth that a small coversion and adjustment need to be made in the engine but nobody can imagine how great that is just because the people are use to accept the so call words of authority for granted. I'm very surprise to see how low is the technical knowledge of most people in many technical environmental forums and how easier is to make everyone walk away from the truth by just claiming to be some kind of authority in the field. The house heater of Mr. Santana was propane Gas before and today is only hydrogen which is producing heating and electricity in abundance for their own private use.
According to Santana, hydrogen is a question of frequency and chain reaction and no the total stupidity writing on every paper and forums by those so call panic soldier. The total conversion cost of the SRX Cadillac was $1875.00 and the Ford Super duty truck was $2345.00, The conversion of his Elegance small Yacht 54' foot long did cost about $5000.00 so as all of you can see, in the world they're people who don't take panic soldier advise but use their own mind. I notice that the cells use by santana were calculated by weight and multiple plasma cells and now he is working on a kit plane like the tiger shark using microturbine with hydrogen only, he will be the first person who ever cross the entire USA flying with hydrogen only without letting anyone know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments Entropy Solution.<br />
As I mentioned before, hydrogen is the answer and I learn with santana what he call the santana effect. I went to visit him and for my surprise, he also show me how his entire house which is powered with hydrogen only and his wife Ford super duty truck drive with over 85%hydrogen and 15% diesel. Its also truth that a small coversion and adjustment need to be made in the engine but nobody can imagine how great that is just because the people are use to accept the so call words of authority for granted. I&#8217;m very surprise to see how low is the technical knowledge of most people in many technical environmental forums and how easier is to make everyone walk away from the truth by just claiming to be some kind of authority in the field. The house heater of Mr. Santana was propane Gas before and today is only hydrogen which is producing heating and electricity in abundance for their own private use.<br />
According to Santana, hydrogen is a question of frequency and chain reaction and no the total stupidity writing on every paper and forums by those so call panic soldier. The total conversion cost of the SRX Cadillac was $1875.00 and the Ford Super duty truck was $2345.00, The conversion of his Elegance small Yacht 54&#8242; foot long did cost about $5000.00 so as all of you can see, in the world they&#8217;re people who don&#8217;t take panic soldier advise but use their own mind. I notice that the cells use by santana were calculated by weight and multiple plasma cells and now he is working on a kit plane like the tiger shark using microturbine with hydrogen only, he will be the first person who ever cross the entire USA flying with hydrogen only without letting anyone know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: hho plans free</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205745</link>
		<dc:creator>hho plans free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than Pseudoscience or free &#8230; dont beleive it, you can build one of your own with the plans &#8230;http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/free browns gas generator plansThe most popular links about free browns gas generator plans by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EntropySolution</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205660</link>
		<dc:creator>EntropySolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't understand what the problem is? It's like people are scared to change the standard engine design. I mean the wankel rotary engine is the only thing to come out since the combustion engine became mainstream that is different from the typical piston driven setup. And I might add the rotary engines aren't revolutionaryly better, they're just a different way of doing the same thing. 

Any time you change the fuel you use, you're going to have to change the engine to accomidate the new fuel properties. That's not something you're going to be able to get around. But once you get over the fear of making some changes you can run your engine off straight hydrogen without any gasoline at all. It's just a matter of how much you want to tinker and tweak with it until you get it running properly. Heck you have to do the same thing with running on alcohol or propaine. So what's the difference? Why are people scared of putting in an extra battery, or a small extra alternator to accomidate the new electrical needs? It's not like it's a big deal to do. A friend of mine had an RV he built out of an old dodge van from the 80's and it had 2 batterys and 2 alternators in it so they could run appliances in it. If they can chop shop togather a camper that can run an electric oven, microwave, electric range, and still have power left over for things like small tv's and radios.. Then a little extra electricity for a HHo producer isn't a big deal at all.

Now about the engines blowing up. You have to adjust your compression with hydrogen. It combusts at a higher preassure and temperature than gasoline. however it burns faster so the temperature dicipates quickly. This actually makes it run cooler than gasoline because the fast burn doesn't give the thermal energy the time to transfer to the internal parts. 
Go look up Hydrogen Fundamentals on youtube. It's I think a 12 part thing and it's real. This guy goes through all the mechanics and physics of it. He shows you what you need and how to make a lawn mower engine run on Hydrogen as an example. He explains what sort of changes you need to make to your engine go get it working. with the right modifications you can make your car run on just about anything that will combust. Gasoline is no longer necessary. 

For those of you who ask, if this is real why haven't large companies gotten in on the deal. Chances are that they have, and they're not talking about it. I personally think that they probably have it all worked out, and they're waiting until we run out of fossil fuels before they make the technology commertial.
It's not a stupid assumption to think that these oil companies have something on the shelf to sell us once they run out of oil to sell us. That's what they do, sell energy for profit. they're not trying to make the world a free happy place, they're trying to pack a few more bills into their wallets.  
They would rather sell us the oil they have now for the next 20 years and make money, than to research something for 20 years and end up spending money on something that ends up making them less money than the oil does. Since to them it's about money not enviornmental issues or personal freedom, of course they are going to be opposed to a fuel that is cheaper than gasoline. Even if fuel effeciency isn't any better, the price difference would be enough to have them stick to selling their gas for 5 bucks a gallon instead of selling HHO or some other fuel for pennies on the dollar. Their goal is to make more and spend less. So it's no surprise that they want to make sure that this technology doesn't become mainstream until after all the oil reserves have ran out. Then they will be converting gas stations over to HHO stations, or bio deisil stations, ethonol, some other fuel they can sell us. But what scares the hell out of them is that some guy with a basic college education in mechanics or electronics is going to build an effective realitively cheap way to produce their own fuel, weather it's alcohol, or terpines, or hydrogen. I'm not even talking about large scale energy production. I mean just for the personal use in a vehicle, they are making alot of money on that alone and it scares them shitless that someone might figure out how to make an engine run on an abundant fuel that they can't monololise and control the price of.
Sometimes I wonder if there aren't people on their payrole who's job is specifically to flame the technology and convince people it's just impossible so that they don't even try. After all, it doesn't matter how possible something is, of no one even tries to do it. A good anaolgy. You don't learn to swim by standing beside the pool worrying about getting wet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what the problem is? It&#8217;s like people are scared to change the standard engine design. I mean the wankel rotary engine is the only thing to come out since the combustion engine became mainstream that is different from the typical piston driven setup. And I might add the rotary engines aren&#8217;t revolutionaryly better, they&#8217;re just a different way of doing the same thing. </p>
<p>Any time you change the fuel you use, you&#8217;re going to have to change the engine to accomidate the new fuel properties. That&#8217;s not something you&#8217;re going to be able to get around. But once you get over the fear of making some changes you can run your engine off straight hydrogen without any gasoline at all. It&#8217;s just a matter of how much you want to tinker and tweak with it until you get it running properly. Heck you have to do the same thing with running on alcohol or propaine. So what&#8217;s the difference? Why are people scared of putting in an extra battery, or a small extra alternator to accomidate the new electrical needs? It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s a big deal to do. A friend of mine had an RV he built out of an old dodge van from the 80&#8217;s and it had 2 batterys and 2 alternators in it so they could run appliances in it. If they can chop shop togather a camper that can run an electric oven, microwave, electric range, and still have power left over for things like small tv&#8217;s and radios.. Then a little extra electricity for a HHo producer isn&#8217;t a big deal at all.</p>
<p>Now about the engines blowing up. You have to adjust your compression with hydrogen. It combusts at a higher preassure and temperature than gasoline. however it burns faster so the temperature dicipates quickly. This actually makes it run cooler than gasoline because the fast burn doesn&#8217;t give the thermal energy the time to transfer to the internal parts.<br />
Go look up Hydrogen Fundamentals on youtube. It&#8217;s I think a 12 part thing and it&#8217;s real. This guy goes through all the mechanics and physics of it. He shows you what you need and how to make a lawn mower engine run on Hydrogen as an example. He explains what sort of changes you need to make to your engine go get it working. with the right modifications you can make your car run on just about anything that will combust. Gasoline is no longer necessary. </p>
<p>For those of you who ask, if this is real why haven&#8217;t large companies gotten in on the deal. Chances are that they have, and they&#8217;re not talking about it. I personally think that they probably have it all worked out, and they&#8217;re waiting until we run out of fossil fuels before they make the technology commertial.<br />
It&#8217;s not a stupid assumption to think that these oil companies have something on the shelf to sell us once they run out of oil to sell us. That&#8217;s what they do, sell energy for profit. they&#8217;re not trying to make the world a free happy place, they&#8217;re trying to pack a few more bills into their wallets.<br />
They would rather sell us the oil they have now for the next 20 years and make money, than to research something for 20 years and end up spending money on something that ends up making them less money than the oil does. Since to them it&#8217;s about money not enviornmental issues or personal freedom, of course they are going to be opposed to a fuel that is cheaper than gasoline. Even if fuel effeciency isn&#8217;t any better, the price difference would be enough to have them stick to selling their gas for 5 bucks a gallon instead of selling HHO or some other fuel for pennies on the dollar. Their goal is to make more and spend less. So it&#8217;s no surprise that they want to make sure that this technology doesn&#8217;t become mainstream until after all the oil reserves have ran out. Then they will be converting gas stations over to HHO stations, or bio deisil stations, ethonol, some other fuel they can sell us. But what scares the hell out of them is that some guy with a basic college education in mechanics or electronics is going to build an effective realitively cheap way to produce their own fuel, weather it&#8217;s alcohol, or terpines, or hydrogen. I&#8217;m not even talking about large scale energy production. I mean just for the personal use in a vehicle, they are making alot of money on that alone and it scares them shitless that someone might figure out how to make an engine run on an abundant fuel that they can&#8217;t monololise and control the price of.<br />
Sometimes I wonder if there aren&#8217;t people on their payrole who&#8217;s job is specifically to flame the technology and convince people it&#8217;s just impossible so that they don&#8217;t even try. After all, it doesn&#8217;t matter how possible something is, of no one even tries to do it. A good anaolgy. You don&#8217;t learn to swim by standing beside the pool worrying about getting wet.</p>
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		<title>By: High T3ch &#187; Salt Water Fuel</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205623</link>
		<dc:creator>High T3ch &#187; Salt Water Fuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when he realized that his salt water experiment burned salt water. This might be very similar to HHO Gas but for now he can only produce a flame from salt water using radio frequencies. HHO Gas is derived [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when he realized that his salt water experiment burned salt water. This might be very similar to HHO Gas but for now he can only produce a flame from salt water using radio frequencies. HHO Gas is derived [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uslesys everret mcgill</title>
		<link>http://hight3ch.com/post/water-fuel-hho-gas/#comment-205524</link>
		<dc:creator>uslesys everret mcgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you all got to be kiddin. if we can produce more power from a drop of hydrogen than the entire u.s. uses.  surely we can build a car that is inexpensive and runs on water. check out popular mechanics magazine 05/08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you all got to be kiddin. if we can produce more power from a drop of hydrogen than the entire u.s. uses.  surely we can build a car that is inexpensive and runs on water. check out popular mechanics magazine 05/08</p>
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